all of us heard candidate romney talk about a 20% cut in all tax rates, a 20% cut. you know? we're swimming in debt. you know, so he says now, well that's not really a 20% cut but a revenue neutral tax. doesn't make sense and hard to pin down a guy that doesn't have core beliefs. >> david, what a lot of voters do, undecided voters, they say, well, who am i supposed to believe here? >> yeah, no. that's clearly what the debate did and i would suggest this is one of the reasons why you see governor romney improve in terms of polls is got the discussion back on the economy and the central issues of taxes and seeing clearly both sides have a different view in terms of what the governor proposing. watching that play out and ultimately i would suggest this is a good conversation for governor romney to be involved in. >> let me just make the point that, you know, governor romney pays a 14% income tax rate which is less than most working families pay in this country and ought to be the first question to him. if we all believe and i think we should that we need to reform the tax code t